Yay! @JoeCienkowski has finished his new pamphlet, I mean book

You know that because he’s whoring himself around the internet again.

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I can’t wait to read it.

After the enduring mental torture and self-harming reading his previous pieces of shite, Jesus Christ is God (or whatever it’s called), Atheism is a Religion (or whatever it’s called) and the Grand Delusion Reality (or whatever it’s called), I’m hoping he’ll actually prove at the end of this book what he sets out to do on page 1 of it.

A tenner he mentions he’s a convicted drug dealer in the introduction. Any takers?

I’ll also wager it’s a complete rip off of Your People Shall Be My People by Don Finto.

Why is our country in such a mess?

I got on my bus last Friday evening after work, and I saw this leaflet on the empty chair in front of me. The first thing that caught my eye was the Union Jack.

To me, it looked like it was from the British National Party or the equally moronic English Defence League. So I picked it up and forgot about it until today when I thought I’d scan it in and share the wonderful news of “Why is our country in such a mess?” You know their serious because it’s big font, in yellow, at an angle, an outline and, for added drama, a shadow. In subliminal typesetting, this means we’re fucked.

And I’m guessing it can be expanded to the whole world.

Anyway, this leaflets asks the question: “Are the following statements TRUE or FALSE.” Ooo a quiz, I wonder if the answer to the 18 statements is all true. Let’s see shall we.

  1. Violence has rapidly increased on our streets over the last 10 years!
  2. There are more teenage pregnancies than ever before!
  3. The rate of abortion gets higher and higher year after year!
  4. There is constant rebellion against authority!
  5. On the whole, society has become more aggressive than ever!
  6. The Government has become more dishonest; ‘fleecing’ the people rather than protecting them!
  7. Alcohol and drugs are rampant in every city, town and village.
  8. People are being ‘conditioned;’ our freedom and choices are being taken away!
  9. Morals, standards and manners have declined to the degree of near non-existence!
  10. TV has made people anti-social!
  11. There is a widespread lack of discipline!
  12. People are less thankful these days.
  13. TV has encouraged and promoted sex before marriage, homosexuality, adultery, violence, pornography etc.
  14. TV is desensitizing people; making them less sensitive to cruelty and suffering.
  15. No one today has a FINAL AUTHORITY in which to turn to. Everyone has ‘heir own opinion, so how do we KNOW what is r!ght and wrong?
  16. Christianity is being marginalized!
  17. People will do almost anything for money these days!
  18. Lying has become the norm! Today we expect to be lied to, whether it’s buying a product or service. People lie to one another SO MUCH that oftentimes you cannot differentiate between what is truth and what is false!

Don’t you see how serious this is? Look at those exclaimation marks at the end of virtually every one. I didn’t realise we were so screwed.

But the time I got to three, I figured it was a Christian selling leaflet and not the racist junk the BNP or EDL put out. Also because there was only one spelling mistake at this point.

Anyway it’s the usual Christian bollocks of wanting the “good old days” and bashing progress like it’s a bad thing.

The only interest to me was this bit.


Schools have replaced the teaching of God’s creation with the ‘theory’ of evolution. They no longer teach the Bible to our children, therefore children no longer feel accountable for their sin … they don’t even know what SIN is!

Hmmmm. Click here and you can read this piece of shite leaflet for yourself.

Science according to creationists #3

For people who think they’re experts on evolution, creationists are pretty dumb.

Joey the porn peddler has mentioned that a giant camel found in Syria and the size of Neanderthal man compared to modern man is proof evolution is wrong.

I think that deserves a…

Now I’ve read On the Origin of Species dozens of times, and I must admit that I’m a little puzzled and I’m sure I’ve never seen that the size and strength is a major player in evolution.

Now creationists, a little homework for you. Why would a larger animal become extinct while the smaller modern camel would survive?

Answers on a postcard.

@JoeCienkowski and evidence for Jesus H Christ

I’ve pinched this from EVC Forum. It’s a couple years old, but unrefuted and most complete list.

WRITERS WHO SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED JESUS

PHILO

Philo Judaeus wrote very many books about Jewish religion and history, in the 30s and 40s, living in Alexandria, and visiting Jerusalem.

Philo was contemporary with Jesus and Paul. Philo visited Jerusalem and had family there, he developed the concept of the Logos and the holy spirit, he was considered a Christian by some later Christians, he wrote a great deal about related times and peoples and issues.

If Jesus had existed, Philo would almost certainly have written about him and his teachings.

Summary: SHOULD have mentioned Jesus or his teachings, but did not.

WRITERS WHO PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED JESUS

SENECA

Lucius Annaeus Seneca wrote many philosophic (Stoic) and satirical books and letters (and Tragedies) in Rome.

Seneca wrote a great deal on many subjects and mentioned many people. He was a Stoic, a school of thought considered sympathetic to Christian teachings.

In fact, early Christians seemed to have expected him to discuss Christianity – they FORGED letters between him and Paul. How else to explain these forgeries, except as Christian responses to a surprising VOID in Seneca’s writings?

Summary: PROBABLY SHOULD have mentioned Jesus or his teachings, but did not.

PLUTARCH

Plutarch of Chaeronea wrote many works on history and philosophy in Rome and Boetia in about 90-120 CE.

Plutarch wrote about influential Roman figures, including some contemporary to Jesus, on Oracles (prophecies), on moral issues and on spiritual and religious issues.

Plutarch’s writings also include a fascinating piece known as the Vision of Aridaeus, a spiritual journey, or out of body experience, or religious fantasy.

If Plutarch knew of Jesus or the Gospel events, it is highly likely he would have mentioned them.

Summary: PROBABLY SHOULD have mentioned Jesus or his teachings, but did not.

JUSTUS

Justus of Tiberias wrote a History of Jewish Kings in Galilee in late 1st century.

Photius read Justus in the 8th century and noted that he did not mention anything: “He (Justus of Tiberias) makes not one mention of Jesus, of what happened to him, or of the wonderful works that he did.”

It is surprising that a contemporary writer from the very region of Jesus’ alleged acts did not mention him.

Summary: PROBABLY SHOULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

WRITERS WHO COULD HAVE MENTIONED JESUS

DAMIS and APOLLONIUS

Damis wrote most of what we know about Apollonius of Tyana. He was a philospher and mystic exactly contemporary with Jesus and who was rather similar to Jesus – enough for some authors to argue they were one and the same person.

If Damis/Apollonius had known of Jesus, he could have easily have been mentioned as a competitor. A story in which Apollonius bested Jesus in debate would not be un-expected.

Summary: COULD easily have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

PLINY THE ELDER

Gaius Plinius Secundus wrote a large Natural History in Rome c.80CE

Pliny wrote a great deal – his Natural History mentions HUNDREDS of people, major & minor – writers, leaders, poets, artists – often with as much reason as mentioning Jesus. (Of course like many other writers he talks about astronomy too, but never mentions the Star of Bethlehem or the darkness.)

It is not at all un-reasoble for this prolific writer to have mentioned Jesus or the Gospels events.

Summary: COULD easily have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

JUVENAL

Decimus Junius Juvenalis wrote sixteen satires in Rome in early 2nd century.

Lucian the Roman satirist DID ridicule Christians (as gullible, easily lead fools) in mid 2nd century. By the later time of Lucian, Christianity obviously was known to the wider Roman community. Whereas Juvenal wrote at a time when Christianity had only just started to rate a few tiny mentions (Pliny the Younger, Tacitus)

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

MARTIAL

Marcus Valerius Martialis wrote satires in Rome in late 1st century.

Martial wrote a large body of poems about all sorts of things. He mentions many people, places, stories and issues – major and minor, within and without Rome, such as :

  • Stoic suffering of discomfort and death
  • virgin’s blood
  • Roman funerary practices
  • the way accused men look in court
  • Roman soldiers mocking their leaders
  • anointing the body with oil
  • Molorchus the good shepherd
  • Tutilius a minor rhetorician, Nestor the wise
  • the (ugly) Temple of Jupiter

This shows Martial mentions or alludes to many and varied people and issues and could easily have mentioned Jesus (or the Gospel events).

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

PETRONIUS

Petronius Arbiter wrote a large novel (a bawdy drama) the Satyricon c.60CE.

Petronius mentions all sorts of people and events in this large work, including:

  • a CRUCIFIXION
  • a scene where guards are posted to stop a corpse being stolen
  • a tomb scene of someone mistaking a person for a supernatural vision
  • gods such as Bacchus and Ceres
  • writers such as Sophocles and Euripides and Epicurus
  • books such as the Iliad
  • Romans such as Cato and Pompey
  • people such as Hannibal, and the Governor of Ephesus
  • female charioteers, slaves, merchants, Arabs, lawyers
  • baths, shipwrecks, meals, etc

This large work, cover MANY topics, including a CRUCIFIXION, and it was written just as Peter and Paul had come to Rome, allegedly. It could easily have mentioned Jesus.

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

PAUSANIAS

Pausanias wrote the massive Guide to Greece in mid 2nd century.

Pausanias’ work is vast and the index covers over 70 pages of small print, I estimate a couple of THOUSAND names are mentioned. He mentions a large number of minor figues from within and without Greece.

He even mentions a Jewish prophetess – a figure so minor she is essentially unknown: “Then later than Demo there was a prophetic woman reared among the Jews beyond Palestine; her name was Sabbe.”

Pausanias also mentions the Jewish rebellion under Hadrian.

Summary: COULD easily have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

EPICTETUS

Epictetus is known for several books of Stoic religious and philosophic discourses in the early 2nd century. One of his disciples was Arrian, and thanks to him much of Epictetus’ works are extant.

Epictetus DID apparently mention “the Galileans”, which could be a reference to either the early Christians, or a the revolt under Judas the Galilean in early 1st century.

Either way, this shows quite clearly that Epictetus could refer to a figure such as Jesus.

Summary: COULD easily have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

AELIUS ARISTIDES

Aelius Aristides the Greek Orator spoke and wrote a History of Rome and other subjects – he seems to refer to the Christians as “impious men from Palestine”

If he could mention people from Palestine, he could easily have mentioned Jesus.

Summary: COULD easily have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

FRONTO

Marcus Cornelius Fronto of Rome wrote several letters in mid 2nd century.

According to Minucius Felix, he scandalised rites practiced by Roman Christians – so he could easily have mentioned Jesus.

Summary: COULD easily have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

PERSIUS

Aulus Persius Flaccus wrote six fairly long satires in Rome in the mid 1st century, of a rather philosophic nature.

The argument that no Roman satirist could be expected to mention Jesus, is proven wrong by the case of a Roman satirist who DID mention Jesus (but only as echoes of later Christian beliefs)

Persius wrote a reasonably large body of work that mentions many people and issues.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

DIO CHRYSOSTOM

Dio Chrysostom wrote many works and gave many speeches in various Roman and Greek centres in late 1st century, of which 80 survive e.g. the Euboicus.

Dio wrote a large number of works in the late 1st century – he certainly could have mentioned Jesus, if he knew of him.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

AULUS GELLIUS

Aulus Gellius wrote Attic Nights (Nights in Athens), a large compendium of many topics and which mentioned many people.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

LUCIUS APULEIUS

Lucius Apuleius wrote the Metamorphoses (the Golden Ass or Transformations of Lucius) and many other spiritual, historical, and philosophic works – several survive.

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

MARCUS AURELIUS

Marcus Aelius Aurelius Antoninus wrote the Stoic Meditations in mid 2nd century – he (apparently) refers once to the Christians in XI.

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

MUSONIUS RUFUS

C. Musonius Rufus wrote on Stoic philosophy in Rome in mid 1st century.

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

HIEROCLES

Hierocles of Alexandria wrote on Stoic philosophy in late 1st century.

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

MAXIMUS of TYRE

Cassius Maximus Tyrius, a Greek NeoPlatonic philosopher, wrote many works in mid 2nd century.

Summary: COULD have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

ARRIAN

Arrian wrote a History of Alexander c.120CE.

The subject is not related, but Arrian wrote a very large work which mentioned HUNDREDS of people, some not from Alexander’s time.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

APPIAN

Appian wrote a large Roman History (from the Gracchi to Caesar) in mid 2nd century.

It’s not particularly likely that this specific writer would mention Jesus. But, he wrote a LARGE work which mentions HUNDREDS of people. Appian does mention some issues of HIS day (mid 2nd century), e.g. a decision by Hadrian.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

THEON of SMYRNA

Theon of Smyrna wrote on astronomy/philosophy in early 2nd century.v

Theon wrote about philosophy. If Jesus and his teachings were known, it is entirely plausible for to mention them.

Theon also wrote about astronomy. If he had heard about the Star of Bethlehem or the Darkness (as an event, or from the Gospels) he could easily have mentioned it.

Apologists frequently cite Phlegon and Thallus, astronomers who mentioned eclipses (but NOT Jesus or the Gospel events, that is merely later Christian wishful thinking) as evidence for Jesus.

An astronomer could easily be expected to mention those incidents, especially when apologists claim other astronomers of the period did exactly that.

The silence of early astronomers about the Star of Bethlehem or the crucifixion darkness argues these “events” were unknown until later.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

QUINTILIAN

Marcus Fabius Quintilianus, wrote the “Education of an Orator” in Rome in late 1st century.

One of the things Jesus was allegedly noted for was his PUBLIC SPEECHES – e.g. the Sermon on the Mount, which supposedly drew and influenced large crowds.

If Quintilian had heard of Jesus or the Gospels events, he could have mentioned the allegedly famous speeches of Jesus.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

LUCIUS ANNAEUS FLORUS

Lucius Annaeus Florus wrote an Epitome of Roman History.

Although not directly on subject, Florus wrote a large work which mentions many names. He could have mentioned Jesus if he had known of him.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

LUCAN

Marcus Annaeus Lucanus wrote the Pharsalia (Civil War) in Rome in mid 1st century.

In his large poem, the Pharsalia, he mentions some events from later times, and he covers many different issues and people in passing. He:

  • mentions an event from 56CE
  • refers to places as far afield as Sicily and Kent
  • refered to Stoic religious beliefs about the end of the world
  • refers to many books and myths and persons and events not part of the main story

Summary: He COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

STATIUS

Publius Papinius Statius wrote numerous minor and epic poems (e.g. Ode to Sleep and the Thebaid) in Rome in late 1st century.

Statius wrote many works on several subjects, he could have mentioned Jesus.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

HERO of ALEXANDRIA

Hero of Alexandria wrote many technical works, including astronomy.

If he had known of the Gospel stories about Jesus, he could have mentioned them.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

GEMINUS

Geminus wrote on mathematics astronomy in Greece.

If he had known of the Gospel stories about Jesus, he could have mentioned them.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

ALBINUS

Albinus taught on (neo-)Platonism in early 2nd century, a little survives.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

ARISTOCLES

Aristocles of Messene wrote On Philosophy, early 2nd century.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

APOLLODORUS

Apollodorus compiled a large Mythology in mid 2nd century.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

HEPHAESTION

Hephaestion of Alexandria wrote many works in mid 2nd century.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

SEXTUS EMPIRICUS

Sextus Empiricus wrote Outlines of Scepticism in mid 2nd century.

Summary: COULD possibly have mentioned Jesus, but did not.

WRITERS CLAIMED TO MENTION JESUS

JOSEPHUS

Much has been said about Josephus, but not here.

Summary: CLAIMED to mention Jesus, but may not have.

TACITUS

Cornelius Tacitus wrote a celebrated passage about Jesus roughly 80 years or so after the alleged events – but he seems to be reporting Christian beliefs of his later times, not using earlier documents: he uses the incorrect title ‘procurator’ – the term used in Tacitus’ time, not Pilate’s; he fails to name the executed man (Roman records could not possibly have called him ‘Christ ‘); and he accepts the recent advent of the Christians, when Rome was known to allow only ancient cults and religions.

Summary: CLAIMED to mention Jesus, but probably late hearsay.

NUMENIUS

In the 3rd century, Origen claimed Numenius “quotes also a narrative regarding Jesus – without, however, mentioning His name.”

Numenius does not mention Jesus, just a story that was later attributed to him.

Summary: CLAIMED to mention Jesus, but probably late hearsay.

SUETONIUS

Gaius SUETONIUS Tranquillus wrote a histories/biographies of Roman Caesars c.120CE.

He mentions a “Chrestus” (a common slave name meaning “Useful”) who caused disturbance in Rome in 49CE.

Summary: CLAIMED to mention Jesus, but did not.

PHLEGON

Phlegon wrote during the 140s – his works are lost. Later, Origen, Eusebius, and Julianus Africanus (as quoted by much later George Syncellus) refer to him, but quote differently his reference to an eclipse. There is no evidence Phlegon said anything about Gospel events – just evidence for later Christians believing his statements about an eclipse (there WAS an eclipse in this period) was really about the Gospel darkness.

Summary: CLAIMED to mention Jesus, but did not.

THALLUS

Thallus perhaps wrote in early 2nd century or somewhat earlier (his works are lost, there is no evidence he wrote in the 1st century, in fact there is some evidence he wrote around 109 BCE, and some authors refer to him for events before the Trojan War!) – 9th century George Syncellus quotes the 3rd century Julianus Africanus, speaking of the darkness at the crucifixion: “Thallus calls this darkness an eclipse”. There is no evidence Thallus made specific reference to Jesus or the Gospel events, as there was an eclipse in 29, the subject in question. Furthermore the supposed reference to Thallus in Eusebius is likely a misreading.

Summary: CLAIMED to mention Jesus, but did not.

WRITERS WHO COULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO HAVE MENTIONED JESUS

  • Babrius
  • Cleomedes
  • Dion Prusaeus
  • Dioscorides
  • Favorinus
  • Lucius Junius Moderatus Columella
  • Marcus Manilius
  • Menelaus of Alexandria
  • Menodotus of Nicomedia
  • Nicomachus of Gerasa
  • Paterculus
  • Phaedrus
  • Pomponius Mela
  • Ptolemy
  • Quintus Curtus Rufus
  • Sextus Julius Frontinus
  • Silius Italicus
  • Tiberius Claudius Herodes Atticus
  • Valerius Flaccus
  • Valerius Maximus

@JoeCienkowski and his Human Population Timeline

Well people have been recieving the rag that Joe Cienkowski has called the Grand Reality, and I don’t know how I can say that with a straight face.

Anyway @cootey59 has posted a PDF that was tucked to the back of the book, sorry can’t stop laughing at “book” when describing Joe Cienkowski effort.

Let’s get the originality of this crap out the way first. As soon as I saw this shit in his video, I knew I’d seen it before and since Joey has a habit of pinching Hovind’s work word for word, it wasn’t hard to track down. Even then, Hovind pinched it from Henry Morris.

Anyhoo, pictured Right is Hovind’s version. There’s more detail on it than Joe’s, and at least done more professionally than a fucking scribble.

Even Hovind doesn’t know how many there was pre-flood, but it’s patently obvious that this is where the 1 billion figure is from Joe’s version.

Now let’s have a look at Joe’s version from his YouTube video.

Looks a straight copy to me. Is it Joe? Well when I asked him on Youtube…

Bollocks Joe. This is a straight copy, and it’s been proved. You’re a liar!

Now here’s the version from his book, the Grand Reality.

First notice the pre-flood population shown in the YouTube video is suspiciously absent (I’ve redrawn it in red) from the one included in the book. This wouldn’t be because @Raliel forced Joey to admit his pre-flood figures were fiction would it?

The block in yellow from 1804 onwards isn’t in dispute, it’s based on reliable figures. Anyone with a grasp of history knows the reasons for this explosion in population, even a link posted by Joe on the Wikipedia explains this, but perversely he keeps bleating about this 96% decrease. Why not just say it’s a 2680% increase in population since the hilariously title “year zero”? I guess we’ll never know.

Speaking of “year zero”, the 250 million figure is the upper end of the estimates, and I have no problem accepting that as true for these purposes.

Now the disagreement with this diagram is the line from the flood to 1804. This has been pointed out DOZENS of times on Twitter, and even in comments on his videos which hasn’t even bothered answering, just deletes them and then goes on and on about Grand Reality not being refuted. In your dreams.

Since he likes to point out the assumptions us “evolutionists” uses, let’s point out the blindingly obvious assumption he’s using by drawing a straight line from 1804 to 2400 BC. This is a purely based on his view of history based on the bible, it has no basis in any fact, whatsoever.

This was all refuted in 1985, if only Joey peachy porn peddler bothered to use Google beforehand.

What’s funnier is Joe’s comment that…

Erm no. I’ve been to Grimspound. I’ve read of archaeological digs in Egypt, Jericho, Iraq, Persia, etc etc that show housing in the BC period. It’s such a stupid comment, but after speaking to Joey, you learn to never been astonished at the depth of his stupidity.

So with all this bollocks refuted, it’s no wonder that no one but himself and his lunatic fringe friends believe in this crap.

Richard Dawkins supports ID?

@joecienkowski continually says that Richard Dawkins believes in Intelligent Design, and yes I don’t think he’s read his books to see how stupid this argument is, but let’s run with it for a moment.

What he’s talking about is the section in Expelled where Ben Stein interviews him.

BEN STEIN: What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in Darwinian evolution.

DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it’s possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

This is the part that is so controversial. I can’t see the problem myself, but for the benefit of Joe Cienkowski, let’s go through it bit by bit.

Ben Steins asks about the “possibility” that ID “could be” the answer. It’s patently obvious it’s hyperthetically asked.

Richard Dawkins answers with a qualifying statement that “it could come about in the following way.” So this is just a shot in the dark.

“It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means” really speaks for itself, and with throwing in “Darwinian” it’s another dig at ID.

“Now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility.” Well yes it is intriguing, but let’s just remember this is pissing in the wind to answer a question about an equally stupid hypothesis, namely Intelligent Design.

“And I suppose it’s possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.” Again Dawkins is suggesting we’d find the evidence for Ben Stein’s belief in the very material we find evidence of evolution.

So it’s plainly obvious to anyone with a brain, that the question is hypothetical, the answer is hypothetical, and if there’s any doubt in your mind that Richard Dawkins believe in Intelligent Design, let’s hear what he says about this interview when asked at a conference.

But Joe Cienkowski doesn’t want to know. He says that it doesn’t care what he said after.

This is the logic we’re dealing with here, but thankfully Joey is going to write an article, explaining it all really plainly for us.

Joe Cienkowski and the HPT

Sunday night, Joe Cienkowski uploaded a video to YouTube to promote ‘Grand Reality’, the atheism killing magnum opus he’s been promising for months.

I’ll admit my expectations weren’t high when @robineccles posted the link, and after 14 minutes of listening to the biggest pile of shite I’ve ever heard.

I truly do not know where to start, even three days after. I’ll skip the childish drawings, the comparison of himself to Jesus and the the “atheist express” crap.

This theory of the population starting with eight people, Noah’s family, isn’t new. Henry Morris first published it as a “theory” in 1974 and it goes without saying that Kent Hovind also picked it up as an argument, which will explain why Joe is parroting now. What Joe doesn’t know, or doesn’t want to know, is that the “theory” was trashed in 1984, and you can see that on talkorgins.org.

Theory refuted Joe.

What he seems so unable to grasp is why the population has rocketed since the 1804 figure of one billion. Well let’s start off with Joe posting a link to that ever “reliable source” called Yahoo Answers, which in turn linked to a Wikipedia article.

Interesting, in two paragraphs it gives the reasons for the population changes but once again, his comphrension skills suck and he hasn’t read it.

Once again, it’s not hard to prove Joe Cienkowski wrong. another few seconds of Google searching to shattered his piss poor excuse for a theory.

Joe Cienkowski spits his dummy out. Again.

Last night Joe Cienkowski blocked me. Again.But friends, let’s not be unhappy at such an incident.

I’m actually quite glad the fucking idiot has blocked me, it means I don’t have to endlessly repeat myself every five minutes before the idiot can’t understand basic things… like words.I was beginning to lose my patience at him anyway, and I guess asking eight (I think) times in one day proof that radiometric dating is wrong didn’t help.

I’ve been tweeted things by people like his love of peaches…

joecienkowski-peachy

… his terrible chat up technique…

joecienkowski-perving

.. and his love of demonstrating that sending a link to Playboy constitutes evidence of “intelligent design”! (excuse the colour coding, I had to grab it from Google’s cache)

joecienkowski-pornpushing

I mean Playboy, for fucks sake, no taste at all and all that shows in the main is that are surgeon’s out there who can do really good breast implants!

But I knew all this before hand. I knew he was a despicable person, I just wanted to keep the discussion civil.

It’s that’s not going to stop me following the plank, or blogging his best lines, which I admit I am well behind on. He’s still on my creationist-loons list I just watch it and laugh as his irrational, illogical and very poorly thought out arguments flood my screen.

As one door closes, another opens and more creationist-loons seem to chat to me now.

Aren’t I the lucky one!

Another piece of consumer research.

I love surveys. I never get bored of the ridiculous questions people are asked, so when one asking what most annoys women came up I knew I was in for a treat.

I thought things like sitting on the sofa and scratch our bollocks would come pretty high, but can’t see it.

What did surprise me was the number one grievance that 54% of the fairer, rather easily upset sex had. I bet you can’t guess.

Yes out of everything us men do that can possibly annoy your pretty little heads , the winner is … *drum roll* … leaving the toilet seat up. Well you could knock me down with a feather. Girls, girls. just how much fucking effort is it for you to put your hand out and pull the seat back down? If that kind of petty shit is the worst in your life with your partner, then you’ve led a very sheltered life.

What really go me about this article is that there is a device that you can buy called the Lav Nav. For just £20 (batteries not included), the piss wars can be over. *facepalm* I despair sometimes.

It didn’t get better with the rest of the list, which included

  • Wet towels on the bed. I’m no scientist but WATER DRIES! Get over it
  • Leaving dirty laundry left on the floor is annoying I have to admit, but you know what I do when I see the wife’s lying on the floor. I pick it up and put it in the laundry basket. No upset, no domestics, and carry on with my day.
  • Snoring is annoying and I’m told I do this, but strangely enough it’s like getting a woman to admit they masterbate, they never do it themselves.
  • Not replacing toilet roll is easily solved in a few seconds by getting one yourself. Problem solved again.
  • Leaving toenail clippings and loose change around the home. Not sure why these two are lumped together.
  • Drinking straight from the milk bottle. I do this, don’t see the harm considering other bodily fluids we are exposed to in our relationship. I’ll remember to use this excuse when begged for oral sex.
  • Refusing to ask for directions when lost, as opposed to driving aimlessly around because you’re scared you’ll look stupid.

I think I can feel a Twitter survey coming on about what really gets on our tits about women 🙂